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PostSubject: WTF: an apology   Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:04 pm

affraid affraid affraid

I just sent out a "Year End" newsletter, with a few notes of thanks and links to our top five Blog posts (by pageviews). Several people on the mailing list had asked to be kept in the loop, but didn't apparently want to take the steps involved to following us on twitter or subscribing to the blog itself, for whatever reason, so I thought an annual mini-newsletter would be one way to do so.

But one fella, despite having NEVER replied to any previous emails in any negative manner, let alone NEVER asking to be taken off our mailing list, decided this newsletter was a heinous crime. He responded by both sending several angry complaints and then unsubscribed by clicking on "reply all." Going as far as threatening to sue the site and even further harass the people on the mailing list.

For anyone who was annoyed in any way by this guy, I apologize. My wife has since explained to me what a "blind copy" is and any future mass emails will be sent that way. My mistake, I'm still new at some of this.

Also, I have removed the guy from the list as requested. As I have for anyone else who has asked. The guy was someone I have had several positive interactions with in the past on other sites and thought might be interested in our little community. An illustrator who was pleasant enough, but obviously must be having a tough time of things if he's so easily enraged. I'm shocked the guy would get so angry at an anonymous newsletter, not knowing or even guessing it was sent to him by a business acquaintance, someone he had actively pursued on a high profile business networking site. I deleted his connection there as well.

Again sorry if this bugged anyone, or if the guy takes any further steps to annoy anyone on the mailing list.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:39 pm

Wow.. I had no clue that happened?!

I like the newsletter idea!

I've paid 7 bucks into this site dammit, and I demand to be kept aprise of what happens!

Even if I can't post as much as I used too!

btw..I want a thread where we can get critques and feedback. I hate posting images and no one says anything. I'm okay with criticism as long as it's fair. I want responses!

how do we get that happening?
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:50 pm

J.M. Hunter wrote:
Wow.. I had no clue that happened?!

I like the newsletter idea!
You should've received it, you are on the email list.

J.M. Hunter wrote:
I've paid 7 bucks into this site dammit, and I demand to be kept aprise of what happens!
What did you pay seven dollars for? affraid
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:02 am

J.M. Hunter wrote:
btw..I want a thread where we can get critques and feedback. I hate posting images and no one says anything. I'm okay with criticism as long as it's fair. I want responses!

how do we get that happening?
If it me, and i had a piece I wanted some help with, I'd start a discussion thread, post the work you want to be critiqued and specify exactly what your looking for, ask a bunch of questions, basically kick the critique off... that will put people at ease because you've given them a context in which to discuss your work, so they don't have jump to conclusions or assume anything.

Then give it time, it still a little slow around here.

You might try deviantArt or linked in, but I haven't had any luck getting anything helpful. The pros and semi-pros are busy and the people who have time to respond either gush or miss the point
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:04 am

No problem about the newsletter or the "unsubscribe" message (i didn't see the other more aggressive messages), though yes, the BCC option for email addresses is a great idea!
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:27 am

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No problem about the newsletter or the "unsubscribe" message (i didn't see the other more aggressive messages), though yes, the BCC option for email addresses is a great idea!
He only clicked REPLY ALL, for the unsubscribe one, he just sent the sweary one to me.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:35 pm

Joe Lee wrote:
J.M. Hunter wrote:
Wow.. I had no clue that happened?!

I like the newsletter idea!
You should've received it, you are on the email list.

J.M. Hunter wrote:
I've paid 7 bucks into this site dammit, and I demand to be kept aprise of what happens!
What did you pay seven dollars for? affraid

Yea I got it fine! Just didn't see any replies to it.


I paid, (gladly) seven bucks to promote the League up on facebook remember?

But I was handsomely rewarded with some awesome comics so I"m not complaining!

I was making jests last night, looks like my post fell flat.

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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:40 pm

Joe Lee wrote:
J.M. Hunter wrote:
btw..I want a thread where we can get critques and feedback. I hate posting images and no one says anything. I'm okay with criticism as long as it's fair. I want responses!

how do we get that happening?
If it me, and i had a piece I wanted some help with, I'd start a discussion thread, post the work you want to be critiqued and specify exactly what your looking for, ask a bunch of questions, basically kick the critique off... that will put people at ease because you've given them a context in which to discuss your work, so they don't have jump to conclusions or assume anything.

Then give it time, it still a little slow around here.

You might try deviantArt or linked in, but I haven't had any luck getting anything helpful. The pros and semi-pros are busy and the people who have time to respond either gush or miss the point

I think that's something I'll give a shot.

I think I was concerned about double posts. But if no one objects to it then I'll proceed in that manner.

What I mean by double posts is: I post an image in the daily sketch thread, (me personally I'm interested in what people think about it before I elaborate honestly). I want to know their initial response to something I'm working on.
Esp. in the early stages so then I can look out for things as I move forward. I'd hate to get to a finished piece and then have to retrograde because of flaws that I may have missed in the early stages.

Then I guess I can start a thread with whichever image in question and provide the necessary context to engage in a discussion/critique.

I think I'll go with that format.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:52 pm

Don't worry about double posts, we've got plenty of room.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:04 pm

Joe, are you also 'Admin'? I've often suspected that was the case but never knew for sure.

As for the guy who flipped out over the newsletter, it sounds like the dude's got bigger problems than an e-mail.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:32 pm

I never understood people who get pissed off about junkmail, whether email or snail. Phone solicitorors? Yeah that I understand, it's intrusive. It's a phone ringing. But you can go through mail at your leisure, how else are businesses supposed to attract new people if they can't send email and junkmail?
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:33 pm

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Joe, are you also 'Admin'? I've often suspected that was the case but never knew for sure.
Yep, But it's just for show mostly. I use it for official stuff only. I try not do too much while logged into that account it has all the permissions and access to everything, I could accidentally delete everything with one keystroke. Plus my iphone is synced up with the joe lee account, so I can only access the admin account when I'm in my office
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:46 pm

HOLY SHIT!

This guy won't let it go.

He just sent another email out bitchin' about this. Did any of you guys get it?

I took him off the mailing list just like everyone else who asked. I even deleted him from the list he signed up on the first place. What more does this guy want? I made a stupid mistake and didn't do the blind copy thing, I'M SORRY! I'm new at this, let it go.

It was one stupid email, sent to a bunch of nice people but this asshole is now accusing me of exposing everyone's identities...

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>To whom it may concern,
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>Some of you have expressed your anger at receiving my "unsubscribe" email from this list. I want to offer my sincere apology to you.
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>I would like to make a few points:
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>1. This email newsletter was unsolicited by me, I did not give my permission to be on this list, and I don't know how got on it in the first place. Thus, my un-subscription to it.
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>2. While a number of have asked me various pointed questions, there is a more basic question which has yet to be asked, and that is; Why was it even possible for me to send you all an email?
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>The owner of this list, by not using the BCC function has now exposed each of our email addresses to unknown recipients. For those of you who do not know, this is the way in which spam email lists are created. Obviously a malicious person could simple copy each of our addresses and do with it what they would. That was not my choice, but to Reply All was.
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>It is true that there are many ways in which I could have responded to this situation, and I'm not claiming to be perfect. So again, I apologize for any ill will that this may have caused.
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>I do not want to be on this email list. However, I will take the time to respond to any reasonable comments that you may have.
>Thank you for your time,

What a freaking nutjob. With a lot of free time.

confused confused confused confused
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:57 pm

yea i got it
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:11 pm

fuckem it doesn't matter.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:27 pm

Yeah, this guy has deliberately spammed everybody on that email's mailing list what, two or three times or more now, all because of ONE EMAIL? I would think he's got his revenge by now. Such as it is.

A single short email, a newsletter inviting him to visit our little online clubhouse, and he responds this way? He must have a freakin' total meltdown if he get's a bad haircut or he gets cut off in traffic.

Craziness. He's not a bad illustrator though. Kids books. No shit.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:30 am

Jesus Christ, I wonder what happens when he gets invited to someone's birthday.

But on a more serious note, give me his e-mail address and I'll sign him up for all sorts of nasty porn websites.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:34 am

hahahahahahahahahahaha @ Jimbo
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:07 am

Jim, he didn't copy you on his email today? I thought all the registered members were on the same list this guy was on. Maybe he cut his mailing down to those who responded to him. I swear from his earlier emails, it sounded like he blamed the whole mailing list for his having been sent the email. Paranoid bastard. No no, all these people conspired to send you an invitation, and they copied themselves on it! ALL WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION! He's big on that permission thing. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:04 pm

I just discovered a moment ago that (for some reason?) all League e-mails were going into my Junk folder. I'm since remedied that.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:22 pm

Stop kidding around. Surely some type of spam filtering device is just the stuff of sci- fi movies. alien
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:23 pm

JamesCarter wrote:
I just discovered a moment ago that (for some reason?) all League e-mails were going into my Junk folder.
Me too. Otherwise I would have surely made a fuss about getting it. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:59 pm

Alex Ness wrote:
fuckem it doesn't matter.

What Alex said.

I just saw his rambling e-mail in my spam folder. Funny, the original email ended up in my inbox. This dude's went directly to spam. My email must have been set to moron-alert.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:01 pm

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Yeah, this guy has deliberately spammed everybody on that email's mailing list what, two or three times or more now, all because of ONE EMAIL? I would think he's got his revenge by now. Such as it is.

A single short email, a newsletter inviting him to visit our little online clubhouse, and he responds this way? He must have a freakin' total meltdown if he get's a bad haircut or he gets cut off in traffic.

Craziness. He's not a bad illustrator though. Kids books. No shit.

Those must be some of the angriest kids books around.
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PostSubject: Re: WTF: an apology   Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:08 pm

Guydc3 wrote:
Joe Lee wrote:
Yeah, this guy has deliberately spammed everybody on that email's mailing list what, two or three times or more now, all because of ONE EMAIL? I would think he's got his revenge by now. Such as it is.

A single short email, a newsletter inviting him to visit our little online clubhouse, and he responds this way? He must have a freakin' total meltdown if he get's a bad haircut or he gets cut off in traffic.

Craziness. He's not a bad illustrator though. Kids books. No shit.

Those must be some of the angriest kids books around.


Nah, not yet.
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